Sandboxie Forum - 27 second loading time (5081)

tzuk:

Tue May 19, 2009 12:50 pm

Due to the good feedback about the recent performance fixes (over 20% according to one report), I've decided to move the topic to the "Beta Version 3.37" forum and consider it resolved. At least for now.

tzuk:

Sun May 17, 2009 9:25 am

I see this as part of the challenge to create good and reliable software.

Cadillakin:

Sun May 17, 2009 2:12 am

]]>Quoting tzuk: ]]>Good to hear this change does make some performance improvements. ]]> You got a tough job, fella. Many users are piling security apps on security apps.. inviting conflict by running way too many resident programs. We have a half a dozen browsers, half a dozen operating systems... plugins, betas, extensions, helper apps, poorly designed software and users with unique setups that sometimes don't have a clue as to what might be causing their issues... and you're expected to fix it.. I don't know how you find the patience..

ssj100:

Sat May 16, 2009 11:37 pm

]]>Quoting tzuk: ]]>Please try version 3.37.11, more information here. http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=5592 ]]> Back using 3.36.04. The 3.37 beta versions caused Internet Explorer browser (IE 8 ) to stall on opening and the only way to shut down iexplore.exe is via Task Manager or via Sandboxie "Terminate Program". This does not always occur, but happens frequently. Using Windows XP SP3, 32-bit.

tzuk:

Sat May 16, 2009 10:13 pm

Good to hear this change does make some performance improvements.

Cadillakin:

Sat May 16, 2009 3:40 pm

]]>Quoting tzuk: ]]>Please try version 3.37.11, more information here. http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=5592 ]]> I see some improvement .. about 6-7 seconds lopped off my initial startup. Unlike Ratchet or Guest10, I've never had any freezing issues. Thanks for your efforts.

Guest10:

Sat May 16, 2009 2:31 pm

I'm glad that it helped you, ratchet. It doesn't seem to help me though

ratchet:

Sat May 16, 2009 2:19 pm

]]>Quoting tzuk: ]]>Please try version 3.37.11, more information here. http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=5592 ]]> On the right track! New session complete at just over 20 seconds. That is down from 26. I use a stop watch and can tell when the secondary freeze ends because the cursor returns in the search field so this is not just a guess.

tzuk:

Sat May 16, 2009 1:36 pm

Please try version 3.37.11, more information here. http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=5592

Cadillakin:

Fri May 15, 2009 11:04 pm

]]>Quoting ratchet: ]]>So a couple of things. This past weekend I went back many versions of Sb. I'm sure I was back far enough that this problem was not occurring but the problem still occurred. This leads me to believe this started with newer Ff versions, not newer Sb versions. The other thing of note is this is occurs on XP Home SP3 with a Pentium 4 processor. On an inexpensive Vista laptop with a low end AMD Dual Core processor the delay is not noticeable. Not sure that is because of better performance or Vista. Both pcs are set up about the same including Ff extensions with one difference in anti-viruses, Desktop NOD32, laptop Avira Free. ]]> Interesting.. On my desktop, my AMD 64 4000+ handles the Firefox/Sandboxie loadup really quick... You wouldn't even notice Sandboxie is loading with the browser.. But on my laptop, it's a sad story.. initial loading of Firefox with Sandboxie.... about 25 seconds with this low-end Thinkpad, Core2 Duo. After that initial loading, they will reload in about 5 seconds. Both are running XP Pro with SP3. I've noticed the slowing over the versions with the laptop.. but the AMD has been relatively unaffected by it.

Guest10:

Fri May 15, 2009 12:01 pm

]]>Quoting ratchet: ]]>So a couple of things. This past weekend I went back many versions of Sb. I'm sure I was back far enough that this problem was not occurring but the problem still occurred. This leads me to believe this started with newer Ff versions, not newer Sb versions. The other thing of note is this is occurs on XP Home SP3 with a Pentium 4 processor. ]]>Thanks for your time in checking this, ratchet. It's something that I was thinking of doing, but just didn't want to devote the time to do it. I use XP Pro on a Pentium 4, if that has anything to do with it. I've tried using Windows Debugger (in a different thread), but the only clue I've ever gotten was from using Process Monitor. It appeared to me that it was related to Firefox (or Windows) checking the Sandboxie Registry key, for the presence of CLSID items. I last posted a comment about the problem in the 3.35 beta version of the forum: http://sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=4986&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=69

ratchet:

Thu May 14, 2009 11:33 pm

So a couple of things. This past weekend I went back many versions of Sb. I'm sure I was back far enough that this problem was not occurring but the problem still occurred. This leads me to believe this started with newer Ff versions, not newer Sb versions. The other thing of note is this is occurs on XP Home SP3 with a Pentium 4 processor. On an inexpensive Vista laptop with a low end AMD Dual Core processor the delay is not noticeable. Not sure that is because of better performance or Vista. Both pcs are set up about the same including Ff extensions with one difference in anti-viruses, Desktop NOD32, laptop Avira Free.

ratchet:

Wed May 06, 2009 12:10 am

]]>Quoting Anonymous: ]]>@ rachet and the other posters with similar problems: I have found the solution for my case: Do you have installed on your computer the program "Spybot - Search & Destroy" (in my case: version 1.6.0)? And do you have activated in "Spybot" the feature "Immunization" ( "Immunize" ). If yes: undo (deactivate) the immunization. In my case this was the reason for the delays! ]]> Unfortunately not!

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Tue May 05, 2009 8:57 pm

@ rachet and the other posters with similar problems: I have found the solution for my case: Do you have installed on your computer the program "Spybot - Search & Destroy" (in my case: version 1.6.0)? And do you have activated in "Spybot" the feature "Immunization" ( "Immunize" ). If yes: undo (deactivate) the immunization. In my case this was the reason for the delays!

rachet:

Wed Apr 29, 2009 5:44 pm

]]>Quoting tzuk: ]]>Can I see a new Resource Access Monitor log, with these settings in effect? It would help to confirm that you've entered the settings correctly. In case you did enter them correctly, the new log may reveal further resources that are needed. ]]> tzuk, I'm away. I will be home Friday 5/1!

tzuk:

Wed Apr 29, 2009 2:01 pm

Can I see a new Resource Access Monitor log, with these settings in effect? It would help to confirm that you've entered the settings correctly. In case you did enter them correctly, the new log may reveal further resources that are needed.

ratchet:

Mon Apr 27, 2009 1:43 pm

]]>Quoting tzuk: ]]>[quote:c3f0e5f73b]I added the resources you mentioned, but I cannot see an improvement. ]]> I'm sorry. I hope you do eventually find the software that is causing this slowdown, such that when you deactivate or uninstall that software, Sandboxie goes faster. Then I may be able to install that other software myself, hopefully reproduce the problem, and discover its cause. * * * ratchet, go to Sandbox Settings > Resource Access > IPC Access > Direct Access, and add: \RPC Control\MsMp-* *\BaseNamedObjects*\ThreatfireApiHookIpc2Map The first is Windows Defender, the second is (obviously) ThreatFire.[/quote:c3f0e5f73b] Sorry to report tzuk it didn't help. I'll be away from the desktop for several days but will be monitoring this thread. Thank You!

tzuk:

Mon Apr 27, 2009 11:56 am

[quote:2ca7a013b7]I added the resources you mentioned, but I cannot see an improvement.[/quote:2ca7a013b7] I'm sorry. I hope you do eventually find the software that is causing this slowdown, such that when you deactivate or uninstall that software, Sandboxie goes faster. Then I may be able to install that other software myself, hopefully reproduce the problem, and discover its cause. * * * ratchet, go to Sandbox Settings > Resource Access > IPC Access > Direct Access, and add: \RPC Control\MsMp-* *\BaseNamedObjects*\ThreatfireApiHookIpc2Map The first is Windows Defender, the second is (obviously) ThreatFire.

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Sun Apr 26, 2009 5:31 pm

Thank you, tzuk. I added the resources you mentioned, but I cannot see an improvement. As you say that you do not have any problems with the starting time of Firefox after having installed NIS 2009 + the IPS thing (and I have heard from another user the same), I fear that the problem is a specific one on my computer. My suspicion is now that the delay could be caused of some rests of the earlier version of Norton Internet Security (NIS 2008) that seem to have remained on my computer after installing NIS 2009. Perhaps a complete new installation of NIS 2009 would help, but that would be too much work. So I will (and can) live with the longer starting time of Firefox. :wink: Thanks again for your help. And if possible and if you have enough time perhaps you can also look about the second problem mentioned in this thread: the "delayed freeze" after the start of certain applications. It seems that this problem has no connection with the use of Norton Internet Security.

ratchet:

Sun Apr 26, 2009 5:29 pm

I did read not to run/post the "Resource Access Monitor" unless asked, however, I'm thinking this may help you. Once again here are the specifics: It doesn't matter whether it is the start of a new sandbox, i.e. sandbox deleted, or just starting a new browsing session, the following times are the same. Starting Firefox sandboxed, home page MSN.com: Page renders in 11 seconds, 9 seconds later there is a 6 second freeze. It's this delayed freeze that is annoying since for all practical purposes, relegates session starts to 26 seconds. Unless I was completely out of it, versions of Ff and/or Sb did not have this issue months ago but I'm not sure when it started. I'm going to edit this in a moment and time loading not sandboxed. 4.5 seconds! Thank You! I also should have mentioned this problem is on an XP, SP3, Pentium 4 desktop. I have an Acer laptop with an inexpensive AMD Dual Core Processor (Not 2X Dual Core) and Vista Home Premium and there isn't a problem. It's setup the same as the desktop with the exception of Avira Free instead of NOD32, everything else is the same. (Drive) \Device\CdRom0 (Drive) \Device\Floppy0 (Drive) \Device\HarddiskVolume1 (Unk) 00000022 \Device\SandboxieDriverApi (Unk) 00000022 \Device\WMIDataDevice (Unk) 00000035 \Dfs (Unk) 00000039 \Device\KsecDD (Unk) 000000F1 \Device\RasAcd Clsid ------------------------------- Clsid {71C3BF7F-682F-4B5E-9E47-5C25D3AC9458} Groove Broadcast Services Clsid {F5078F32-C551-11D3-89B9-0000F81FE221} XML DOM Document 3.0 Clsid {FA2FAAC1-9316-48F3-A294-121FEEA80CEC} Groove File System Unread Mark Services Ipc ------------------------------- Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\!IETld!Mutex Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\{A3BD3259-3E4F-428a-84C8-F0463A9D3EB5} Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\{A64C7F33-DA35-459b-96CA-63B51FB0CDB9} Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\ComPlusCOMRegTable Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\crypt32LogoffEvent Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\FirefoxStartupMutex Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\Groove:FileWatermark:[rmehHukMSgC5+oUZXv4IVjueJbQ=] Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\Groove:PathMutex:[rmehHukMSgC5+oUZXv4IVjueJbQ=] Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\mchMixCache$127c 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tzuk:

Sun Apr 26, 2009 1:08 pm

First, I have to say that I just installed the trial of Norton Anti Virus 2009 (with the IPS thing), fully updated, and I don't see any time difference starting Firefox normally or under Sandboxie. Having said that, here a few more resources you can try to add in IPC Access > Direct Access to see if they improve anything. [code:1:933c22e3e2]OpenIpcPath=*\BaseNamedObjects*\CGSCE OpenIpcPath=*\BaseNamedObjects*\CNDIE OpenIpcPath=*\BaseNamedObjects*\CSECE OpenIpcPath=*\BaseNamedObjects*\IDS_STORAGE_MUTEX[/code:1:933c22e3e2]

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Sun Apr 26, 2009 1:40 am

Thank you for your help, tzuk. Well, there is a certain difference, but not too big: After having started the computer for the first time: Starting time for Firefox within Sandboxie: about 45 seconds (instead of 1 minute). The following starting times are about 20-25 seconds. (Without the addition in Sandboxie Control, it are 30-35 seconds, sometimes longer, up to 1 minute.) Here a result of the Resource Access Monitor for starting Firefox within Sandboxie after adding the entry in Sandboxie Control: [quote:d72dd92b99][color=blue:d72dd92b99](Drive) \Device\CdRom0 (Drive) \Device\HarddiskVolume1 (Unk) 00000022 \Device\SandboxieDriverApi (Unk) 00000022 \Device\WMIDataDevice (Unk) 00000035 \Dfs (Unk) 00000039 \Device\KsecDD (Unk) 000000F1 \Device\RasAcd Clsid ------------------------------- Ipc ------------------------------- Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\{A3BD3259-3E4F-428a-84C8-F0463A9D3EB5} Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\{A64C7F33-DA35-459b-96CA-63B51FB0CDB9} Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\CGSCE Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\CNDIE Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\ComPlusCOMRegTable Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\crypt32LogoffEvent Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\CSECE Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\FirefoxStartupMutex Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\IDS_STORAGE_MUTEX Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\RotHintTable Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\SbieDllDummyEvent_2088 Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\SbieDllDummyEvent_2452 Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\SbieDllDummyEvent_2512 Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\SbieDllDummyEvent_2584 Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\SbieDllDummyEvent_2928 Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\SbieServiceInitComplete_DcomLaunch Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\SbieServiceInitComplete_RpcSs Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\ScmCreatedEvent Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\shell.{210A4BA0-3AEA-1069-A2D9-08002B30309D} Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\shell.{7CB834F0-527B-11D2-9D1F-0000F805CA57} Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\shell.{A48F1A32-A340-11D1-BC6B-00A0C90312E1} Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\UrlZonesSM_... 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tzuk:

Sat Apr 25, 2009 8:53 pm

Looking just at the Firefox case for now, try this. Go to Sandboxie Control > Sandbox Settings > Resource Access > IPC Access > Direct Access, then add: [code:1:46b36488a6]*\BaseNamedObjects*\*_Norton_{0C55C096-0F1D-4F28-AAA2-85EF591126E7}_Norton_Definitions_IPSDefs_*[/code:1:46b36488a6] (This is all on a single line.) Then click OK and restart your Firefox under Sandboxie. If it makes a difference, great! If not, please post the results of Resource Access Monitor.

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Sat Apr 25, 2009 12:09 am

I am the guest from Posting "Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:17 pm". Ratchet, concerning the delayed freeze of Firefox within Sandboxie, I can confirm what you write: [quote:f43b309de9] Unless I was completely out of it, versions of Ff and/or Sb did not have this issue months ago but I'm not sure when it started.[/quote:f43b309de9] Maybe the issue exists about 3-4 weeks now? I am also not sure. (In case of the Windows Media Player, I have the impression that the freezing issue - at least on my computer - exists already for a longer time.) I would also like to add that I made a test completely reinstalling Firefox (creating new profile etc.), but the "delayed freeze" appeared immediately again. tzuk, before posting my results with the "Resource Access Monitor", in order to avoid misunderstandings just let me make clear again that I see two different issues: Issue 1: The delay in opening the Firefox-browser within Sandboxie when the add-on "Norton IPS 1.0" is activated (starting time in my case: 1 minute). Issue 2: The Firefox-browser or an application like Windows Media Player has already opened successfully within the sandbox, but after some seconds appears the problem which ratchet and guest10 already described very clearly: the "delayed freeze" and high CPU (which, by the way, seems to happen again, when for example the mp3 or the video played in the Windows Media Player ends: then again for a couple of seconds everything freezes). So here are my results of using the "Resource Access Monitor" for 3 different situations. I hope this is the information you asked for, tzuk. [b:f43b309de9]Situation 1:[/b:f43b309de9] Opening [b:f43b309de9]Firefox[/b:f43b309de9] within Sandboxie, when "Norton IPS 1.0" is [b:f43b309de9]activated[/b:f43b309de9]: [quote:f43b309de9][color=blue:f43b309de9](Drive) \Device\CdRom0 (Drive) \Device\HarddiskVolume1 (Unk) 00000022 \Device\SandboxieDriverApi (Unk) 00000022 \Device\WMIDataDevice (Unk) 00000035 \Dfs (Unk) 00000039 \Device\KsecDD (Unk) 000000F1 \Device\RasAcd Clsid ------------------------------- Ipc ------------------------------- Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\{A3BD3259-3E4F-428a-84C8-F0463A9D3EB5} Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\{A64C7F33-DA35-459b-96CA-63B51FB0CDB9} Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\C__Dokumente und Einstellungen_All Users_Anwendungsdaten_Norton_{0C55C096-0F1D-4F28-AAA2-85EF591126E7}_Norton_Definitions_IPSDefs_20090420.001 Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\CGSCE Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\CNDIE Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\ComPlusCOMRegTable Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\crypt32LogoffEvent Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\CSECE Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\FirefoxStartupMutex Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\IDS_STORAGE_MUTEX Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\RotHintTable Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\SbieDllDummyEvent_2956 Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\SbieDllDummyEvent_3428 Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\SbieDllDummyEvent_3520 Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\SbieDllDummyEvent_3676 Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\SbieServiceInitComplete_DcomLaunch Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\SbieServiceInitComplete_RpcSs Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\ScmCreatedEvent Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\shell.{210A4BA0-3AEA-1069-A2D9-08002B30309D} Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\shell.{7CB834F0-527B-11D2-9D1F-0000F805CA57} Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\shell.{A48F1A32-A340-11D1-BC6B-00A0C90312E1} Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\UrlZonesSM_..... Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\userenv: User Profile setup event Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\ZoneAttributeCacheCounterMutex Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\ZonesCacheCounterMutex Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\ZonesCounterMutex Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\ZonesLockedCacheCounterMutex Ipc \RPC Control\actkernel Ipc \RPC Control\epmapper Ipc \RPC Control\OLE823F77280CD34AAF98E3BEA47CB7 Ipc O \BaseNamedObjects\CiceroSharedMemDefaultS-1-5-21-239712180-516276246-1282138258-1006 Ipc O \BaseNamedObjects\CTF.Asm.MutexDefaultS-1-5-21-239712180-516276246-1282138258-1006 Ipc O \BaseNamedObjects\CTF.AsmListCache.FMPDefaultS-1-5-21-239712180-516276246-1282138258-1006 Ipc O \BaseNamedObjects\CTF.Compart.MutexDefaultS-1-5-21-239712180-516276246-1282138258-1006 Ipc O \BaseNamedObjects\CTF.Layouts.MutexDefaultS-1-5-21-239712180-516276246-1282138258-1006 Ipc O \BaseNamedObjects\CTF.LBES.MutexDefaultS-1-5-21-239712180-516276246-1282138258-1006 Ipc O \BaseNamedObjects\CTF.ThreadMarshalInterfaceEvent.000007C0.00000000.00000017 Ipc O \BaseNamedObjects\CTF.ThreadMIConnectionEvent.000007C0.00000000.00000017 Ipc O \BaseNamedObjects\CTF.TimListCache.FMPDefaultS-1-5-21-239712180-516276246-1282138258-1006MUTEX.DefaultS-1-5-21-239712180-516276246-1282138258-1006 Ipc O \BaseNamedObjects\CTF.TimListCache.FMPDefaultS-1-5-21-239712180-516276246-1282138258-1006SFM.DefaultS-1-5-21-239712180-516276246-1282138258-1006 Ipc O \BaseNamedObjects\CTF.TMD.MutexDefaultS-1-5-21-239712180-516276246-1282138258-1006 Ipc O \BaseNamedObjects\MSCTF.MarshalInterface.FileMap.AMH.LJ.GPAPBL Ipc O \BaseNamedObjects\MSCTF.MarshalInterface.FileMap.AMH.MJ.GPAPBL Ipc O \BaseNamedObjects\MSCTF.MarshalInterface.FileMap.AMH.NJ.GPAPBL Ipc O \BaseNamedObjects\MSCTF.MarshalInterface.FileMap.AMJ..KGAPBL Ipc O \BaseNamedObjects\MSCTF.MarshalInterface.FileMap.AMJ.B.INAPBL Ipc O \BaseNamedObjects\MSCTF.MarshalInterface.FileMap.AMJ.C.INAPBL Ipc O \BaseNamedObjects\MSCTF.MarshalInterface.FileMap.AMJ.D.COAPBL Ipc O \BaseNamedObjects\MSCTF.MarshalInterface.FileMap.AMJ.E.MOAPBL Ipc O \BaseNamedObjects\MSCTF.MarshalInterface.FileMap.AMJ.F.MOAPBL Ipc O \BaseNamedObjects\MSCTF.MarshalInterface.FileMap.AMJ.G.MOAPBL Ipc O \BaseNamedObjects\MSCTF.SendReceive.Event.AMH.IC Ipc O \BaseNamedObjects\MSCTF.SendReceiveConection.Event.AMH.IC Ipc O \BaseNamedObjects\MSCTF.Shared.MUTEX.AMH Ipc O \BaseNamedObjects\MSCTF.Shared.SFM.AMH Ipc O \BaseNamedObjects\Sandboxie_DeviceIdList Ipc O \BaseNamedObjects\Sandboxie_DeviceSetupClasses Ipc O \BaseNamedObjects\ShimCacheMutex Ipc O \BaseNamedObjects\ShimSharedMemory Ipc O \KnownDlls\advapi32.dll Ipc O \KnownDlls\comdlg32.dll Ipc O \KnownDlls\CRYPT32.dll Ipc O \KnownDlls\gdi32.dll Ipc O \KnownDlls\iertutil.dll Ipc O \KnownDlls\kernel32.dll Ipc O \KnownDlls\MSASN1.dll Ipc O \KnownDlls\msvcrt.dll Ipc O \KnownDlls\NETAPI32.dll Ipc O \KnownDlls\ole32.dll Ipc O \KnownDlls\oleaut32.dll Ipc O \KnownDlls\rpcrt4.dll Ipc O \KnownDlls\Secur32.dll Ipc O \KnownDlls\shell32.dll Ipc O \KnownDlls\SHLWAPI.dll Ipc O \KnownDlls\urlmon.dll Ipc O \KnownDlls\user32.dll Ipc O \KnownDlls\USERENV.dll Ipc O \KnownDlls\version.dll Ipc O \KnownDlls\wldap32.dll Ipc O \LsaAuthenticationPort Ipc O \NLS\NlsSectionCP1252 Ipc O \NLS\NlsSectionCType Ipc O \NLS\NlsSectionLocale Ipc O \NLS\NlsSectionSortkey Ipc O \NLS\NlsSectionSortTbls Ipc O \NLS\NlsSectionUnicode Ipc O \RPC Control\DNSResolver Ipc O \RPC Control\SbieSvcPort Ipc O \Security\LSA_AUTHENTICATION_INITIALIZED Ipc O \ThemeApiPort Ipc O \Windows\ApiPort Pipe ------------------------------- Pipe O \Device\Afd Pipe O \Device\Afd\AsyncConnectHlp Pipe O \Device\Afd\Endpoint Pipe X \Device\NamedPipe\lsarpc Pipe X \Device\NamedPipe\wkssvc WinCls ------------------------------- WinCls O Shell_TrayWnd WinCls X DDEMLMom WinCls X FirefoxMessageWindow WinCls X Progman[/color:f43b309de9] [/quote:f43b309de9] [b:f43b309de9]Situation 2:[/b:f43b309de9] Opening [b:f43b309de9]Firefox[/b:f43b309de9] within Sandboxie, when "Norton IPS 1.0" is [b:f43b309de9]deactivated[/b:f43b309de9]: [quote:f43b309de9][color=blue:f43b309de9](Drive) \Device\CdRom0 (Drive) \Device\HarddiskVolume1 (Unk) 00000022 \Device\SandboxieDriverApi (Unk) 00000035 \Dfs (Unk) 00000039 \Device\KsecDD (Unk) 000000F1 \Device\RasAcd Clsid ------------------------------- Ipc ------------------------------- Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\{A3BD3259-3E4F-428a-84C8-F0463A9D3EB5} Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\{A64C7F33-DA35-459b-96CA-63B51FB0CDB9} Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\ComPlusCOMRegTable Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\crypt32LogoffEvent Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\FirefoxStartupMutex Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\RotHintTable Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\SbieDllDummyEvent_3304 Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\SbieDllDummyEvent_3436 Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\SbieDllDummyEvent_3824 Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\SbieDllDummyEvent_3904 Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\SbieServiceInitComplete_DcomLaunch Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\SbieServiceInitComplete_RpcSs Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\ScmCreatedEvent Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\shell.{210A4BA0-3AEA-1069-A2D9-08002B30309D} Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\shell.{7CB834F0-527B-11D2-9D1F-0000F805CA57} Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\shell.{A48F1A32-A340-11D1-BC6B-00A0C90312E1} Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\UrlZonesSM_..... Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\userenv: User Profile setup event Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\ZoneAttributeCacheCounterMutex Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\ZonesCacheCounterMutex Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\ZonesCounterMutex Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\ZonesLockedCacheCounterMutex Ipc \RPC Control\actkernel Ipc \RPC Control\epmapper Ipc \RPC Control\OLE10DEC14066B84234B923382ED7EE Ipc O \BaseNamedObjects\CiceroSharedMemDefaultS-1-5-21-239712180-516276246-1282138258-1006 Ipc O \BaseNamedObjects\CTF.Asm.MutexDefaultS-1-5-21-239712180-516276246-1282138258-1006 Ipc O \BaseNamedObjects\CTF.AsmListCache.FMPDefaultS-1-5-21-239712180-516276246-1282138258-1006 Ipc O \BaseNamedObjects\CTF.Compart.MutexDefaultS-1-5-21-239712180-516276246-1282138258-1006 Ipc O \BaseNamedObjects\CTF.Layouts.MutexDefaultS-1-5-21-239712180-516276246-1282138258-1006 Ipc O \BaseNamedObjects\CTF.LBES.MutexDefaultS-1-5-21-239712180-516276246-1282138258-1006 Ipc O \BaseNamedObjects\CTF.ThreadMarshalInterfaceEvent.000007C0.00000000.00000014 Ipc O \BaseNamedObjects\CTF.ThreadMIConnectionEvent.000007C0.00000000.00000014 Ipc O \BaseNamedObjects\CTF.TimListCache.FMPDefaultS-1-5-21-239712180-516276246-1282138258-1006MUTEX.DefaultS-1-5-21-239712180-516276246-1282138258-1006 Ipc O \BaseNamedObjects\CTF.TimListCache.FMPDefaultS-1-5-21-239712180-516276246-1282138258-1006SFM.DefaultS-1-5-21-239712180-516276246-1282138258-1006 Ipc O \BaseNamedObjects\CTF.TMD.MutexDefaultS-1-5-21-239712180-516276246-1282138258-1006 Ipc O \BaseNamedObjects\MSCTF.MarshalInterface.FileMap.AMH.IE.NGLOOK Ipc O \BaseNamedObjects\MSCTF.MarshalInterface.FileMap.AMH.JE.NGLOOK Ipc O \BaseNamedObjects\MSCTF.MarshalInterface.FileMap.AMH.KE.NGLOOK Ipc O \BaseNamedObjects\MSCTF.MarshalInterface.FileMap.ECK..LOKOOK Ipc O \BaseNamedObjects\MSCTF.MarshalInterface.FileMap.ECK.B.JFLOOK Ipc O \BaseNamedObjects\MSCTF.MarshalInterface.FileMap.ECK.C.JFLOOK Ipc O \BaseNamedObjects\MSCTF.MarshalInterface.FileMap.ECK.D.JFLOOK Ipc O \BaseNamedObjects\MSCTF.MarshalInterface.FileMap.ECK.E.NGLOOK Ipc O \BaseNamedObjects\MSCTF.MarshalInterface.FileMap.ECK.F.NGLOOK Ipc O \BaseNamedObjects\MSCTF.MarshalInterface.FileMap.ECK.G.NGLOOK Ipc O \BaseNamedObjects\MSCTF.SendReceive.Event.AMH.IC Ipc O \BaseNamedObjects\MSCTF.SendReceiveConection.Event.AMH.IC Ipc O \BaseNamedObjects\MSCTF.Shared.MUTEX.AMH Ipc O \BaseNamedObjects\MSCTF.Shared.SFM.AMH Ipc O \BaseNamedObjects\Sandboxie_DeviceIdList Ipc O \BaseNamedObjects\Sandboxie_DeviceSetupClasses Ipc O \BaseNamedObjects\ShimCacheMutex Ipc O \BaseNamedObjects\ShimSharedMemory Ipc O \KnownDlls\advapi32.dll Ipc O \KnownDlls\comdlg32.dll Ipc O \KnownDlls\CRYPT32.dll Ipc O \KnownDlls\gdi32.dll Ipc O \KnownDlls\iertutil.dll Ipc O \KnownDlls\kernel32.dll Ipc O \KnownDlls\MSASN1.dll Ipc O \KnownDlls\msvcrt.dll Ipc O \KnownDlls\NETAPI32.dll Ipc O \KnownDlls\ole32.dll Ipc O \KnownDlls\oleaut32.dll Ipc O \KnownDlls\rpcrt4.dll Ipc O \KnownDlls\Secur32.dll Ipc O \KnownDlls\shell32.dll Ipc O \KnownDlls\SHLWAPI.dll Ipc O \KnownDlls\user32.dll Ipc O \KnownDlls\USERENV.dll Ipc O \KnownDlls\version.dll Ipc O \KnownDlls\wldap32.dll Ipc O \LsaAuthenticationPort Ipc O \NLS\NlsSectionCP1252 Ipc O \NLS\NlsSectionCType Ipc O \NLS\NlsSectionLocale Ipc O \NLS\NlsSectionSortkey Ipc O \NLS\NlsSectionSortTbls Ipc O \NLS\NlsSectionUnicode Ipc O \RPC Control\DNSResolver Ipc O \RPC Control\SbieSvcPort Ipc O \Security\LSA_AUTHENTICATION_INITIALIZED Ipc O \ThemeApiPort Ipc O \Windows\ApiPort Pipe ------------------------------- Pipe O \Device\Afd Pipe O \Device\Afd\AsyncConnectHlp Pipe O \Device\Afd\Endpoint Pipe X \Device\NamedPipe\lsarpc Pipe X \Device\NamedPipe\wkssvc WinCls ------------------------------- WinCls O Shell_TrayWnd WinCls X DDEMLMom WinCls X FirefoxMessageWindow WinCls X Progman[/color:f43b309de9] [/quote:f43b309de9] [b:f43b309de9]Situation 3:[/b:f43b309de9] Opening the [b:f43b309de9]Windows Media Player[/b:f43b309de9] within Sandboxie for playing a small MP3 (it takes place in another sandbox that the one used for situations 1 and 2): [quote:f43b309de9][color=blue:f43b309de9](Drive) \Device\CdRom0 (Drive) \Device\HarddiskVolume1 (Unk) 00000004 \Device\0000005e (Unk) 00000004 \Device\0000005e\{a7c7a5b0-5af3-11d1-9ced-00a024bf0407}&{9b365890-165f-11d0-a195-0020afd156e4} (Unk) 00000004 \Device\0000005e\{cd171de3-69e5-11d2-b56d-0000f8754380}&{9b365890-165f-11d0-a195-0020afd156e4} (Unk) 00000022 \Device\KSENUM#00000001\{9B365890-165F-11D0-A195-0020AFD156E4} (Unk) 00000022 \Device\KSENUM#00000002\{146F1A80-4791-11D0-A5D6-28DB04C10000}\□□□□□ (Unk) 00000022 \Device\KSENUM#00000002\{9B365890-165F-11D0-A195-0020AFD156E4} (Unk) 00000022 \Device\SandboxieDriverApi (Unk) 00000022 \Device\WMIDataDevice (Unk) 00000035 \Dfs (Unk) 00000039 \Device\KsecDD (Unk) 000000F1 \Device\RasAcd Clsid ------------------------------- Clsid {00021401-0000-0000-C000-000000000046} Verkn�pfung Clsid {204810B9-73B2-11D4-BF42-00B0D0118B56} UPnPRegistrar Clsid {275C23E2-3747-11D0-9FEA-00AA003F8646} Multi Language Support Clsid {499C0C20-A766-11CF-8011-00A0C90A8F78} ? Clsid {79EAC9E2-BAF9-11CE-8C82-00AA004BA90B} http: Asychronous Pluggable Protocol Handler Clsid {79EAC9E3-BAF9-11CE-8C82-00AA004BA90B} ftp: Asychronous Pluggable Protocol Handler Clsid {79EAC9E5-BAF9-11CE-8C82-00AA004BA90B} https: Asychronous Pluggable Protocol Handler Clsid {E77CC89B-7401-4C04-8CED-149DB35ADD04} ? Ipc ------------------------------- Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\_!MSFTHISTORY!_ Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\{106859D4-9C78-40F3-90A6-14B43C9BDF34} Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\{85502eff-8669-4b0e-8c83-37242bd6f76d}:sqlce_se_lck:1 Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\{85502eff-8669-4b0e-8c83-37242bd6f76d}:sqlce_se_lck:10 Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\{85502eff-8669-4b0e-8c83-37242bd6f76d}:sqlce_se_lck:11 Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\{85502eff-8669-4b0e-8c83-37242bd6f76d}:sqlce_se_lck:12 Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\{85502eff-8669-4b0e-8c83-37242bd6f76d}:sqlce_se_lck:13 Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\{85502eff-8669-4b0e-8c83-37242bd6f76d}:sqlce_se_lck:14 Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\{85502eff-8669-4b0e-8c83-37242bd6f76d}:sqlce_se_lck:2 Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\{85502eff-8669-4b0e-8c83-37242bd6f76d}:sqlce_se_lck:3 Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\{85502eff-8669-4b0e-8c83-37242bd6f76d}:sqlce_se_lck:4 Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\{85502eff-8669-4b0e-8c83-37242bd6f76d}:sqlce_se_lck:5 Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\{85502eff-8669-4b0e-8c83-37242bd6f76d}:sqlce_se_lck:6 Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\{85502eff-8669-4b0e-8c83-37242bd6f76d}:sqlce_se_lck:7 Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\{85502eff-8669-4b0e-8c83-37242bd6f76d}:sqlce_se_lck:8 Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\{85502eff-8669-4b0e-8c83-37242bd6f76d}:sqlce_se_lck:9 Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\{A3BD3259-3E4F-428a-84C8-F0463A9D3EB5} Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\{A64C7F33-DA35-459b-96CA-63B51FB0CDB9} Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\0:c:_dokumente und einstellungen_......_lokale einstellungen_anwendungsdaten_microsoft_media player_currentdatabase_360.wmdb:sqlce_se_lks Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\0:c:_dokumente und einstellungen_....._lokale einstellungen_anwendungsdaten_microsoft_media player_currentdatabase_360.wmdb:sqlce_se_mem Ipc \BaseNamedObjects\c:!dokumente und einstellungen!....!cookies! 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ratchet:

Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:16 pm

I wasn't asked to, however, I did run the Resource Access Monitor. May I paste the results? It doesn't matter whether it is the start of a new sandbox, i.e. sandbox deleted, or just starting a new browsing session, the following times are the same. Starting Firefox sandboxed, home page MSN.com: Page renders in 11 seconds, 9 seconds later there is a 6 second freeze. It's this delayed freeze that is annoying since for all practical purposes, relegates session starts to 26 seconds. Unless I was completely out of it, versions of Ff and/or Sb did not have this issue months ago but I'm not sure when it started. I'm going to edit this in a moment and time loading not sandboxed. 4.5 seconds! Thank You! I also should have mentioned this problem is on an XP, SP3, Pentium 4 desktop. I have an Acer laptop with an inexpensive AMD Dual Core Processor (Not 2X Dual Core) and Vista Home Premium and there isn't a problem. It's setup the same as the desktop with the exception of Avira Free instead of NOD32, everything else is the same.

tzuk:

Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:37 pm

It's good that you found out source of the conflict. Please try to use the Resource Access Monitor to get a list of resources that are needed during the start-up of Firefox. http://www.sandboxie.com/index.php?ResourceAccessMonitor

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Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:17 pm

1. Concerning the loading time of Firefox I would like to add my own experience: - Loading time outside of Sandboxie: about 5-6 seconds - Loading time within Sandboxie: about 1 minute ! And I found out what's the reason in my case: It is the add-on " Norton IPS 1.0 " (Norton Intrusion Prevention System), which is part of "Norton Internet Security 2009". When I deactivate this add-on, Firefox starts within Sandboxie in about 10-12 seconds. The problem is that for security reasons of course I would not like to deactivate this add-on permanently ... 2. I would like to thank the posters for the following statements: ]]>Quoting Guest10: ]]> ]]>Quoting ratchet: ]]>... Anyway, loads it Sb in seven seconds, seven seconds later Ff uses 100% CPU rendering all functions useless for six seconds. ]]>At least I'm not the only one this happens to, with a sandboxed Firefox. I estimated that about 6 seconds after Fx displays the home page (any home page) Fx goes to 99% cpu and stays there for 8-10 seconds. With a sandboxed IE or with an unsandboxed Fx, the cpu load gets high, but doesn't last very long. ]]> So now I (also) know that I am not the only user of Sandboxie having this problem. :) I can confirm from my own experience these statements. Moreover something similar happens when opening for example the Windows Media Player within Sandboxie: The CPU of the wmplayer.exe goes up to 98-100% and remains there for a couple of seconds (not only 1 or 2 seconds as it happens outside of Sandboxie), and in this time all functions are blocked, the player does not react, whatever I click on.

ratchet:

Tue Mar 10, 2009 7:29 pm

]]>Quoting TWL845: ]]> ]]>Quoting Anonymous: ]]>"IE is embedded in Windows so is mostly already loaded before you click the IE icon to go on line" that was my point friend. this startup delay has less to do with SBIE and more to do with the way firefox starts up. In my experience, firefox is the slowest of all the browsers but with the best add-ons support hence the fact i am still with it. Otherwise id use opera/ie anyday. i NEED addblock... :P ]]> I installed Opera just for grins, and configured it to my liking best I could. Opera loads cold after a bootup in 13 seconds, and in 3 seconds in subsequent accesses. That's not sandboxed. I looked in the control panel and found that FF used 39mbs of space, and Opera uses 5mbs. I am going to momentarily shut off my Online Armor and load FF in and out of Sandboxie. If there's a significant difference I'll report back. ]]> I'm pretty sure I tried that but it didn't help.

TWL845:

Tue Mar 10, 2009 4:27 pm

]]>Quoting Anonymous: ]]>"IE is embedded in Windows so is mostly already loaded before you click the IE icon to go on line" that was my point friend. this startup delay has less to do with SBIE and more to do with the way firefox starts up. In my experience, firefox is the slowest of all the browsers but with the best add-ons support hence the fact i am still with it. Otherwise id use opera/ie anyday. i NEED addblock... :P ]]> I installed Opera just for grins, and configured it to my liking best I could. Opera loads cold after a bootup in 13 seconds, and in 3 seconds in subsequent accesses. That's not sandboxed. I looked in the control panel and found that FF used 39mbs of space, and Opera uses 5mbs. I am going to momentarily shut off my Online Armor and load FF in and out of Sandboxie. If there's a significant difference I'll report back.

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Sat Mar 07, 2009 3:59 pm

The delay has got to be due to Sandboxie.Firefox starts quick without,and for me it was still quick with the previous version,the one i still use.Lots of people have said firefox is slower with the latest version..

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Sat Mar 07, 2009 1:38 pm

"IE is embedded in Windows so is mostly already loaded before you click the IE icon to go on line" that was my point friend. this startup delay has less to do with SBIE and more to do with the way firefox starts up. In my experience, firefox is the slowest of all the browsers but with the best add-ons support hence the fact i am still with it. Otherwise id use opera/ie anyday. i NEED addblock... :P

TWL845:

Sat Mar 07, 2009 3:41 am

]]>Quoting VJ: ]]>" Regarding the firefox 27seconds: I've posted about this before. Firefox reads a LOT of data off the disk on startup. With sbie its reading off coupla locations ie programfiles\mozilla, documentsettings\appdata, sbie\documentssettings\appdata. If you CLEAR the sandbox everytime then EVERYTIME firefox startsup it creates a lot of directories and files (19 files 23 folders occupying 3mb on my setup) so it'll definetly take time to loadup. Now lets down to brass-tacks.. *grin*. :idea: if you are using a real-time anti virus and or more products hips, etc etc then all that data's read again.... so it'll definetly be slow. 27secs is a lot... my normal startup's 5-8 and sbie startup is 8-10. i don't use any other product except Com0d0 internet security (which is pretty light IMO). I've a 5yr old p-mobile-1.6, 1gbram, xpsp3, 40gbhdd 4800... :oops: ps. try this with IE .. it should load up almost at the same time with or without sandboxie.... report back. thanks for reading. ]]> IE is embedded in Windows so is mostly already loaded before you click the IE icon to go on line. Thus a 4 second load up every time. I guess I will just accept the slow load up of FF and slower load up of SBie as that's the way it is. I'll survive it. FF is coming out with a new engine, supposingly to compete with Chrome for speed. We'll see.

Guest10:

Fri Mar 06, 2009 11:28 pm

]]>Quoting ratchet: ]]>... Anyway, loads it Sb in seven seconds, seven seconds later Ff uses 100% CPU rendering all functions useless for six seconds. ]]>At least I'm not the only one this happens to, with a sandboxed Firefox. I estimated that about 6 seconds after Fx displays the home page (any home page) Fx goes to 99% cpu and stays there for 8-10 seconds. With a sandboxed IE or with an unsandboxed Fx, the cpu load gets high, but doesn't last very long. I posted it in the context of reported "Buffer Overflow" results for "RegQueryKey" operations involving the sandbox and CLSID Querys. http://sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=5068

ratchet:

Fri Mar 06, 2009 10:46 pm

So the strangest thing Sb does is loading MSN.com which is my home page. I just keep it as my HP because A) I actually do like its layout and B) My wife uses hotmail (the worst of the web mails) so it's convenient for her. Anyway, loads it Sb in seven seconds, seven seconds later Ff uses 100% CPU rendering all functions useless for six seconds. I time this with my cell phone. Not Sboxed, Ff goes to 88% for what seems like less than one second, quicker than I can time it anyway. I tried flash block, disabled Ff extensions and plugins and disabled anti-malwares and firewall but cannot change the behavior. Also, this only occurs with MSN, not any other website that I've tried. Six additional seconds is a small price to pay I suppose!

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Thu Mar 05, 2009 6:50 pm

I get slow loading time also,but only with latest version.Previus version starts fast

VJ:

Thu Mar 05, 2009 6:04 pm

"If I close FF and re-load it, it starts in 4 seconds." - thats true for EVERY windows program since the Pentium-II era i.e 1999. Start it once.. shut it down.. start it again.. faster. Why? I think its something to do with prefetching and loading from ram/page file. When you run a program it loads into ram/pagefile and stays there. After you shut it, i think windows dosent clear the area immediately so if you start the program again it loads super fast from there. This is a non-issue. Regarding the firefox 27seconds: I've posted about this before. Firefox reads a LOT of data off the disk on startup. With sbie its reading off coupla locations ie programfiles\mozilla, documentsettings\appdata, sbie\documentssettings\appdata. If you CLEAR the sandbox everytime then EVERYTIME firefox startsup it creates a lot of directories and files (19 files 23 folders occupying 3mb on my setup) so it'll definetly take time to loadup. Now lets down to brass-tacks.. *grin*. :idea: if you are using a real-time anti virus and or more products hips, etc etc then all that data's read again.... so it'll definetly be slow. 27secs is a lot... my normal startup's 5-8 and sbie startup is 8-10. i don't use any other product except Com0d0 internet security (which is pretty light IMO). I've a 5yr old p-mobile-1.6, 1gbram, xpsp3, 40gbhdd 4800... :oops: ps. try this with IE .. it should load up almost at the same time with or without sandboxie.... report back. thanks for reading.

tzuk:

Thu Mar 05, 2009 10:44 am

So at least we know that Sandboxie doesn't have an effect on programs not running under its supervision. Which is what I expected. As for the 27 seconds, can only repeat what I suggested earlier, that it may be related to some add-on or extension. Can you try running a sandboxed Firefox in Firefox Safe Mode, so no add-ons at all are loaded by Firefox? If you then see Firefox starting in four seconds, then it would confirm the delay is caused by an add-on.

TWL845:

Wed Mar 04, 2009 6:49 pm

]]>Quoting tzuk: ]]>TWL845, please clarify that. Are you saying that if Sandboxie Control (the yellow tray icon) is there or not there, that has some effect on the start-up time for a Firefox that is not running under Sandboxie? ]]> Since my first post I have tried a few things. It seems that if I don't load SBie on bootup, FF loads in 17 seconds any way. If I close FF and re-load it, it starts in 4 seconds. If I start FF using Sandboxie, it takes 27 seconds every time.

TWL845: Re: 27 second loading time

Wed Mar 04, 2009 6:42 pm

]]>Quoting Anonymous: ]]> ]]>Quoting Cadillakin: ]]> ]]>Quoting TWL845: ]]>I have had a 27 second cold loading time accessing Firefox sandboxed, and a 17 second cold loading time accessing FF not Sandboxed. If I exit Sandboxie, FF starts in 4 seconds. Is there a fix? Thanks I'm using the latest SBie version and I'm using Windows XP sp3. ]]> I have a similar initial load time on my laptop.. My desktop is about 1/3rd that time. There is no workaround other than to minimize or eliminate your extensions. I load about 20 extensions, including some of the bigger ones, TabMix, Adblock, NoScript, and ScrapBook. ]]> I tried disabling my extensions and it had no affect on load time. ]]> Sorry about the "guest" in my last post. I didn't sign in.

: Re: 27 second loading time

Wed Mar 04, 2009 6:39 pm

]]>Quoting Cadillakin: ]]> ]]>Quoting TWL845: ]]>I have had a 27 second cold loading time accessing Firefox sandboxed, and a 17 second cold loading time accessing FF not Sandboxed. If I exit Sandboxie, FF starts in 4 seconds. Is there a fix? Thanks I'm using the latest SBie version and I'm using Windows XP sp3. ]]> I have a similar initial load time on my laptop.. My desktop is about 1/3rd that time. There is no workaround other than to minimize or eliminate your extensions. I load about 20 extensions, including some of the bigger ones, TabMix, Adblock, NoScript, and ScrapBook. ]]> I tried disabling my extensions and it had no affect on boot time.

tzuk:

Wed Mar 04, 2009 5:24 pm

TWL845, please clarify that. Are you saying that if Sandboxie Control (the yellow tray icon) is there or not there, that has some effect on the start-up time for a Firefox that is not running under Sandboxie?

Cadillakin: Re: 27 second loading time

Tue Mar 03, 2009 4:05 pm

]]>Quoting TWL845: ]]>I have had a 27 second cold loading time accessing Firefox sandboxed, and a 17 second cold loading time accessing FF not Sandboxed. If I exit Sandboxie, FF starts in 4 seconds. Is there a fix? Thanks I'm using the latest SBie version and I'm using Windows XP sp3. ]]> I have a similar initial load time on my laptop.. My desktop is about 1/3rd that time. There is no workaround other than to minimize or eliminate your extensions. I load about 20 extensions, including some of the bigger ones, TabMix, Adblock, NoScript, and ScrapBook.

TWL845: 27 second loading time

Tue Mar 03, 2009 3:44 am

I have had a 27 second cold loading time accessing Firefox sandboxed, and a 17 second cold loading time accessing FF not Sandboxed. If I exit Sandboxie, FF starts in 4 seconds. Is there a fix? Thanks I'm using the latest SBie version and I'm using Windows XP sp3.