http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=1976 en-us 90 Thu Sep 06, 2007 11:09 am Thu Sep 06, 2007 11:09 am http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11550#11550 Thu Sep 06, 2007 11:09 am http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11550#11550 OK, SandboxToys is now publicly available. See [url=http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2028]this thread[/url]. [color=red:6401bba20b]IMPORTANT NOTE to the users of the version previously published in this thread:[/color:6401bba20b] I have modified slightly some things in the new version, notably the registry keys needed to launch some tools from the context menu of the files and folders in Explorer. To update the registry, it is necessary to repair or uninstall and reinstall SandboxToys. So, overwrite the old SandboxToys.exe with the new one, then use the Start Menu shortcut "Uninstall or Repair SandboxToys", and answer No to the confirmation dialog to activate the Repair option. After the repair operation, you should see a new context menu function called "Open Sandboxed Container", available only on shortcut files (.LNK files.) http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11513#11513 Mon Sep 03, 2007 9:24 am http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11513#11513 ]]>Quoting dlguild: ]]>I did a little experiment. I put 3 files in the sandbox, an executable (.exe), a PDF file (.pdf) & a .zip file. I browsed unsandboxed to the files and double clicked each one in turn. The .exe opened in the sandbox as expected. Both the .pdf & .zip file opened unsandboxed . In addition, when I extracted the .zip file to my desktop, the extracted files ended up on my real desktop, not the sandboxed one. I have to think about whether this is a potential security breach or not. ]]>IMO, if you launch files from an unsanboxed explorer, it is normal that they start unsandboxed. I am even surprised that the EXE files run sandboxed. It's probably a feature of Sandboxie, certainly not due to SandboxToys. ]]>Quoting dlguild: ]]>r0lZ - we are getting pretty far removed from the original topic. Maybe you ought to start a new thread in 'Anything Else' for the Sandboxie Tools. It would be more visible there & others are sure to jump in with ideas. Also perhaps a new 'bug' thread for the 2 bugs you noticed. :) ]]>It's my intention, but since SandboxToys is still potentially unstable, I prefer to hide it somewhat. The next version will probably be announced more officially. I will also summarize later the bugs I've found in specific bug threads. I have almost finished the "mirror" thing, but I still want to write a function to remove dead sandboxed shortcuts automatically from the Start Menu folder. Currently, if you create mirror shortcuts, then uninstall a program or delete a sandbox, the shortcuts are still in the Start Menu, and they are still technically valid, since they point to Sandboxie's Start.exe. It is therefore difficult to remove them manually. http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11508#11508 Mon Sep 03, 2007 6:20 am http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11508#11508 ]]>Quoting r0lZ: ]]>Just to be sure: what do you mean by "Console = 0"? Should I assume 0 when the registry keys contains Console, and otherwise use the value in the key? ]]> Yes, that is what I meant. I should have been more precise. ]]>Quoting r0lZ: ]]>I'm not sure Shortcut.dll is the right file. I need a specific Tcl/Tk dll, not a standard Windows DLL. ]]> I downloaded the dll & double clicked it. Your shortcut maker program opened up! I think it must be the correct version. ]]>Quoting r0lZ: ]]>BTW, I think I've found a little Sandboxie bug. I have created a shortcut containing this command: [code:1:bbc1c3ca01]"C:\Program Files\Sandboxie\Start.exe" /box:Test "D:\Sandbox\Test\user\current\Desktop\Archive.zip"[/code:1:bbc1c3ca01] When I launch it, Sandboxie issues this error: [code:1:bbc1c3ca01]Could not invoke program: "D:\Sandbox\Test\user\current\Desktop\Archive.zip" System error code: %1 is not a valid Win32 application (193)[/code:1:bbc1c3ca01] However, there is no "%1" in the command, and Sandboxie can launch the file. It starts even before I close the error dialog! The same error occur if I type the command in the DOS console. ]]> I think "%1" is the Sandboxie variable which contains the string for the command. Technically, the error message is correct. A .zip file is not a valid Win32 application. However, Windows intercepts the request & executes the "Compressed folder" tool. I can confirm this behavior on my system. What I noticed as well is that the compressed folder tool launched outside of the sandbox. I did a little experiment. I put 3 files in the sandbox, an executable (.exe), a PDF file (.pdf) & a .zip file. I browsed unsandboxed to the files and double clicked each one in turn. The .exe opened in the sandbox as expected. Both the .pdf & .zip file opened unsandboxed . In addition, when I extracted the .zip file to my desktop, the extracted files ended up on my real desktop, not the sandboxed one. I have to think about whether this is a potential security breach or not. ]]>Quoting r0lZ: ]]>When I tick the Sandboxie option to run Sanboxie Control on system startup, when Windows starts, I have often (but not always) an error that says something like "unable to find the user name for <sid>. Cannot determine the path of the sandbox." (Where <sid> is my SID.) However, Sandboxie works well, and I am able to use all sandboxes (but I have no boxes with the %SID% substitution yet!) This error never occurs when I launch Sandboxie manually. Seems something is not fully initialized yet when Sandboxie starts. ]]> I have not seen this error. r0lZ - we are getting pretty far removed from the original topic. Maybe you ought to start a new thread in 'Anything Else' for the Sandboxie Tools. It would be more visible there & others are sure to jump in with ideas. Also perhaps a new 'bug' thread for the 2 bugs you noticed. :) http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11507#11507 Mon Sep 03, 2007 2:52 am http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11507#11507 Thanks. I will try to implement %SID% and %SESSION%. Just to be sure: what do you mean by "Console = 0"? Should I assume 0 when the registry keys contains Console, and otherwise use the value in the key? I'm not sure Shortcut.dll is the right file. I need a specific Tcl/Tk dll, not a standard Windows DLL. I'll have a look tomorrow. Anyway, the wiki link seems interesting. I am currently implementing my idea of a tool to create a "mirror" of the sandboxes's Start Menus as sandboxed shortcuts in the regular start menu. I use, for now, Shortcut.exe, which has a query option. Works fine, but I would like to avoid to use an external problem. I'll do that later, as reading the information out of the original shortcut is not the hardest part, and I should be able to change the method easily. BTW, I think I've found a little Sandboxie bug. I have created a shortcut containing this command: [code:1:a5625fa9c4]"C:\Program Files\Sandboxie\Start.exe" /box:Test "D:\Sandbox\Test\user\current\Desktop\Archive.zip"[/code:1:a5625fa9c4] When I launch it, Sandboxie issues this error: [code:1:a5625fa9c4]Could not invoke program: "D:\Sandbox\Test\user\current\Desktop\Archive.zip" System error code: %1 is not a valid Win32 application (193)[/code:1:a5625fa9c4] However, there is no "%1" in the command, and Sandboxie can launch the file. It starts even before I close the error dialog! The same error occur if I type the command in the DOS console. It might be caused by the fact that I still use the default "Compressed folder" tool of Windows to open the zip files by default. And another one: When I tick the Sandboxie option to run Sanboxie Control on system startup, when Windows starts, I have often (but not always) an error that says something like "unable to find the user name for <sid>. Cannot determine the path of the sandbox." (Where <sid> is my SID.) However, Sandboxie works well, and I am able to use all sandboxes (but I have no boxes with the %SID% substitution yet!) This error never occurs when I launch Sandboxie manually. Seems something is not fully initialized yet when Sandboxie starts. Sorry if those problems have already been reported. I'm too lazy to use Search! ;) http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11503#11503 Sun Sep 02, 2007 8:56 pm http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11503#11503 ]]>Quoting r0lZ: ]]>I've tested the %SID% substitutions with Sandboxie, and indeed it's the key. I can't find an easy and safe way to retrieve this value from the registry, but who would use that cryptic name in the path of his boxes? It can be useful to access some data in the registry, but IMO, as a folder name, it's totally useless. ]]> If you do a search of the forum, you will notice some people are using %SID%. Since there is a 1 to 1 correspondence between the user login name and the user's SID, I'm not sure why they what to do this. ]]>Quoting r0lZ: ]]>%SESSION% is even more confusing. Seems that the value used by Sandboxie is always 0, at least on my system. But when I read the SESSIONNAME environment variable from Tcl/Tk, it's always "Console" that is returned. Dead end! BTW, SESSIONNAME exists also in the registry, under the key "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Volatile Environment", but here also it's Console that is stored. ]]> The %SESSION% variable is useful in multiuser environments, such as Windows 2003 Terminal Services, particularly if you set up the server to allow multiple instances of the same user. Console = 0. It might also come into play if you use 'Fast User Switching', which I don't use. I found 'shortcut.dll' available for download here: [url]http://www.nodevice.com/dll/SHORTCUT_DLL/item15282.html[/url] I also found an interesting article on alternative methods to 'shortcut.dll' here (site went offline a couple of minutes ago, hopefully just temporary): [url]http://wiki.tcl.tk/1844[/url] ]]>Quoting r0lZ: ]]>Another thing: Have you tested the "Start Menu" of SandboxToys? It is mainly useful when you have installed some programs in your boxes. I would like your opinion. ]]> Yes I am using the Sandboxie Toys Start Menu. I particularly like the ability to selectively delete sandboxes while others are still in use. Also, I like the various options for exploring the sandboxes in & out of the sandbox and in normal or restricted user mode. Regedit & sandboxed DOS Prompt are very useful. Very nice indeed. :) http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11499#11499 Sun Sep 02, 2007 2:33 pm http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11499#11499 I've tested the %SID% substitutions with Sandboxie, and indeed it's the key. I can't find an easy and safe way to retrieve this value from the registry, but who would use that cryptic name in the path of his boxes? It can be useful to access some data in the registry, but IMO, as a folder name, it's totally useless. %SESSION% is even more confusing. Seems that the value used by Sandboxie is always 0, at least on my system. But when I read the SESSIONNAME environment variable from Tcl/Tk, it's always "Console" that is returned. Dead end! BTW, SESSIONNAME exists also in the registry, under the key "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Volatile Environment", but here also it's Console that is stored. I think I will not worry too much about those missing substitutions! ;-) Another thing: Have you tested the "Start Menu" of SandboxToys? It is mainly useful when you have installed some programs in your boxes. I would like your opinion. http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11495#11495 Sun Sep 02, 2007 10:02 am http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11495#11495 Apparently whoami.exe is slightly different on each operating system. "whoami /logonid" will return a blank string under XP Pro, but will return only the <key>, which is the actual SID, under Windows 2003. "whoami /user /sid" will return the same thing you found on both operating systems. I don't know if it comes with Vista at all. I am fairly certain the <key> is what you are after for Sandboxie. If you can get it from the registry, that would probably be best. Just use the value of <key> for the current user, not <machine_name>\<user_name>. I am not a programmer, so I can't help you with a CLI tool for your next shortcut tool. :? Hopefully, someone more talented than I can help out with it. :) http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11493#11493 Sun Sep 02, 2007 7:55 am http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11493#11493 OK, thanks for the info, and for your appreciation. :) Strangely, I have whoami on my system, although I have WinXP (SP2) and haven't installed any support pack. However, "whoami /logonid" returns an empty string, whoami without argument returns <machine_name>\<user_name> and "whoami /user /sid" returns: [code:1:21f897d921][user] = "<machine_name>\<user_name>" <key>[/code:1:21f897d921] (Where <key> is that strange, long and complex string with dashes and numbers that is used in registry's HKEY_USERS as the name of the root key of the current user. It's that key that is duplicated as HKEY_CURRENT_USER.) What should I use? <machine_name>\<user_name>, or the key name? Also, could I read the value I need directly from the registry? I guess it's more reliable! It is easy for me to retrieve the SESSIONNAME environment variable, but since this variable holds different contents when accessed from the command prompt or from another environment, could I trust it? Oh, I suppose that I can try to create a new sandbox with %SID% and %SESSIOM% in its name, to verify what Sandboxie uses. Should be easy. Another thing: I would like to add an important feature to SandboxToys. It should behave somewhat like the regular "Recover Files" tool of Sandboxie, but instead of copying the files, it will create sandboxed shortcuts. To do that, I must be able to read the contents of any shortcut (.LNK file) as I need to know where it points (that's easy) but also if it has arguments, and its "run in" parameter, and (optionally) its icon. With the standard libraries included in Tcl/Tk, I can't do that. I can only create shortcuts, but not examine them. There is a specific Tcl/Tk extension, "shortcut.dll", that should be exactly what I need, but it is discontinued, and I can't find it on the net any more. Do you know a CLI tool that I could use to retrieve this information from any .LNK file and output it to stdout? http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11490#11490 Sun Sep 02, 2007 1:22 am http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11490#11490 r0lZ - Thank you for putting together such a nice set of Sandboxie tools! So far, everything seems to be working very well. I like the way you use the original program icon together with the "#" sign to distinguish between the sandboxed & unsandboxed shortcuts. I don't know anything about the Tcl/Tk programing language, so I don't know if the following will help you to figure out a way to expand the %SESSION% & %SID% variables. Windows 2003 Server ships with a command line executable located in the %WinDir%\System32 folder called "whoami.exe". When invoked "whoami /logonid" it will return a string containing the current user SID. The command line "set sessionname" will return a string containing the current session ID (or CONSOLE if logged in at the console). "whoami.exe" does not ship by default with Windows XP, but it is available (a slightly different version) as part of the XP support pack. Also, I copied the executable form Windows 2003 to XP and it ran just fine. Thanks again for supporting Sandboxie with your great Sandboxie Tool set. http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11454#11454 Sat Sep 01, 2007 10:19 am http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11454#11454 OK, I have written the little app to create the "sandboxed shortcuts" I was talking about [url=http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11194#11194]above[/url]. Finally, it turned out to be a small toolbox for Sandboxie, so I have named it SandboxToys. :) It can also display a menu with all files installed in the Desktop, QuickLaunch and Start Menus folders of your sandboxes, to launch any installed application automatically sandboxed in their own box. There are also several other tools available, such as extensions to the regular Sandboxie's Start Menu and Run Dialog to open them in any existing sandbox. Download SandboxToys here: [url=http://home.scarlet.be/~aige0009/files/SandboxToys.zip]SandboxToys.zip[/url] To install, extract SandboxToys.exe to the Sandboxie's installation folder (unsandboxed, of course!), and double-click it. It will install itself. Or read the SandboxToys_install.txt file included in the archive. It gives more information. I will probably announce this tool later in a new topic, but since I consider it still as a potentially unstable beta, before doing so, I would like to have some feedback from the experienced users that helped me in this topic. Thanks in advance. Currently, there is already a known bug: SandboxToys need to parse your Sandboxie.ini file to find the path to your sandboxes. As you know, the path may contain %% substitutions. Most of them are handled by SandboxToys, except those: - The variable %SID% which expands to the user security-ID (SID) - The variable %SESSION% which expands to the Terminal Services session number I don't know how to retrieve those values, and therefore can't expand them. Any pointer will be much appreciated. Of course, if some of your paths contain those variables, some SandboxToys functions will probably not work as expected. But it's not the case by default. Have fun! http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11338#11338 Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:47 am http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11338#11338 ]]>Quoting Guest: ]]>Hope you don't mind me jumping in here, but I recently had a problem uninstalling Bufferzone, and was left with the same string in the registry which would not delete no matter what was tried, and believe me, me and some other guys tried everything under the sun. My mistake was uninstalling Bufferzone with a third party uninstaller. Solution was to reinstall Bufferzone, and use its own installer to remove it. If you did this, my apologies. If you didn't, then after selecting uninstall, a window pops up: [URL=http://m1.freeshare.us/view/?171fs181521.jpg][img:b462f92d79]http://m1.freeshare.us/171fs181521_th.jpg[/img:b462f92d79][/URL] Check the three boxes, away you go, and Bufferzone uninstalls cleanly. Couple of minor reg entries left which delete easily. The problem string is gone. Anyway, sorry if this doesn't help, but it worked for me. ]]> Thank you, thank you, for posting this way of uninstalling that bufferzone reg entry . It's the only thing that worked, thanks :) :) http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11310#11310 Wed Aug 29, 2007 5:08 pm http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11310#11310 Yes, sandboxie 3.01.19 works well. Of course, I've tried to uninstall and reinstall it several times, but the start menu problem persists. As I said, if it's really the only thing that doesn't work, I can live with it! http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11308#11308 Wed Aug 29, 2007 4:58 pm http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11308#11308 So basically, everything works fine for you (with sandboxie) except for the sandboxie start menu? Well now that i think about it, i think i remember having this problem in 2.64, i cant remember why it was happening, but all i did was just uninstall sandboxie, restart, and then install the newest version of sandboxie, and it worked fine. Btw, i put XP in a vm (damn did it feel plain, lol) and installed bufferzone, then when i uninstalled bufferzone, it didnt leave those keys behind. :shock: So maybe something on your machine locking those keys or maybe there is some parts of BufferZone left behind (like some processes or service) that are using the registry keys? P.S Does anyone else notice all the OS problems that other security software can cause, but not Sandboxie! http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11307#11307 Wed Aug 29, 2007 4:46 pm http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11307#11307 ]]>Quoting MitchE323: ]]>Didn't you create a new profile? You probably don't have both CurrentUser's cleaned out and LocalMachine is locking those keys up. ]]> Yes, I've created a new user profile. But the key is still there, as it's not an user dependent key. Anyway, I prefer to continue to use my normal account, or I'll lose many setups. As you can see, the value is NOT identical in the regular key. Therefore, the BZ key is not a link to this one. [code:1:d6b1c8eec0] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\ServiceCurrent] @=dword:00000010 [/code:1:d6b1c8eec0] ]]>Quoting wraithdu: ]]>What is the exact error message when you try to delete the key? ]]> As always under Windoze, the error message is not explicit. Something like "Error deleting key." Nothing more! I'll try your SYSTEM account idea. Thanks! But I doubt that removing the key will solve the problem with the start menu. Anyway, don't worry. I prefer to right-click on the regular menu items to call "Run sandboxed". I don't need SB's start menu at all! I'm just wondering why it doesn't work well, and why the Desktop sub-item works perfectly!? http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11298#11298 Wed Aug 29, 2007 1:17 pm http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11298#11298 What is the exact error message when you try to delete the key? I have one more idea at the moment. Maybe BufferZone set these keys with permissions similar to the LEGACY drivers keys, ie they can only be accessed by the SYSTEM account. Try this - 1. Download PSTools from here - http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/FileAndDisk/PsTools.mspx 2. Extract psexec.exe to somewhere, and open a cmd window to this directory. 3. type 'psexec -d -i -s regedit' (no quotes) 4. now try to delete the keys Psexec will open regedit in the SYSTEM account. Worth a shot anyway. BTW, you can delete the LEGACY driver keys this way too. NOTE - you must have administrative access to do this. http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11292#11292 Wed Aug 29, 2007 11:25 am http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11292#11292 Didn't you create a new profile? You probably don't have both CurrentUser's cleaned out and LocalMachine is locking those keys up. http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11286#11286 Wed Aug 29, 2007 10:49 am http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11286#11286 ]]>Quoting wraithdu: ]]>Screenshot maybe? ]]> [code:1:41688d7af2]Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\BufferZone] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\BufferZone\Virtual] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\BufferZone\Virtual\Untrusted] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\BufferZone\Virtual\Untrusted\Machine] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\BufferZone\Virtual\Untrusted\Machine\System] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\BufferZone\Virtual\Untrusted\Machine\System\ControlSet001] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\BufferZone\Virtual\Untrusted\Machine\System\ControlSet001\Control] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\BufferZone\Virtual\Untrusted\Machine\System\ControlSet001\Control\ServiceCurrent] @=dword:00000013[/code:1:41688d7af2] I was wrong. There is still a value. http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11285#11285 Wed Aug 29, 2007 10:23 am http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11285#11285 ]]>Quoting wraithdu: ]]>I'd have to add jv16PowerTools to that list of good registry cleaners, just my 2c. ]]> Actually your right, but the reason i didnt add it is only because of the fact that it's not "n00b friendly", you see, most newbies would just scan the registry and remove everything the scanner found, now thats ok, but only if your using the 3 programs i listed since they only show you the entries that are absolutely safe to remove, jv16 on the other hand, will lots of times, show you keys that actually arent junk and are needed by the OS and/or a program installed on your system, so if you dont know what your doing, and you dont read through what jv16 has found, then you'll just removed everything it found, and then screw your system up. :shock: So long story short, only use jv16 if you know what you're doing. :wink: And about the registry keys, i still think a reg cleaner might be able to remove them, you'd be suprised, i used to frequently get locked keys on XP (not on Vista of course) that i could not remove, but i would run 1 (or more) reg cleaners, and it would remove the locked key(s). http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11267#11267 Wed Aug 29, 2007 1:59 am http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11267#11267 If they are really symbolic links, there is a way to remove them. You'd have to google for 'symbolic links' to see, or check the MS knowledge base, but there's a way to do it. But it's strange that there's no data in them if they are links. Screenshot maybe? http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11264#11264 Tue Aug 28, 2007 11:47 pm http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11264#11264 I had, and still have, the same problem. Some keys are left in the registry after uninstalling BZ, and they can't be deleted. I think they are links to HK_LOCAL_MACHINE keys, somewhat like HK_CLASSES_ROOT and HK_CURRENT_USER. Since LOCAL_MACHINE contains keys directly related to the hardware, they cannot be deleted. I don't think any registry cleaner can get rid of them. I have only installed the official BZ version with the official Giveaway Of The Day installer, but uninstalling BZ left the keys anyway. I have uninstalled BZ several times, but still can't erase them. IMO, they are probably harmless, as only the folder structure remains, without any particular key value. That doesn't mean that I like that! :( I'm glad to have tried BZ anyway, as it's on the Giveaway Of The Day feedback that I hear about Sandboxie for the first time! ;) http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11261#11261 Tue Aug 28, 2007 10:40 pm http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11261#11261 I'd have to add jv16PowerTools to that list of good registry cleaners, just my 2c. http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11256#11256 Tue Aug 28, 2007 9:30 pm http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11256#11256 How bout' just cleaning your registry? here are 3 programs i swear by and havent failed me yet for 3-5 years, 1. Ace Utilities: Use only the disk cleaner and registry cleaner. 2. CCleaner: Use only the cleaner and the registry repairer. 3. Tuneup Utilities: Use only the registry cleaner. Thats it, nothing else is needed, trust me, i've tested all the other programs and i dont recommend the other cleaning programs since they can actually ruin your registry, so thats why i recommend using only the 3 i posted, everything else is crap (seriously). :lol: http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11249#11249 Tue Aug 28, 2007 8:39 pm http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11249#11249 Could it be that these problematic registry entries contain null characters? Someone want to give this tool a try then? http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/utilities/regdelnull.mspx http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11244#11244 Tue Aug 28, 2007 7:24 pm http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11244#11244 Hope you don't mind me jumping in here, but I recently had a problem uninstalling Bufferzone, and was left with the same string in the registry which would not delete no matter what was tried, and believe me, me and some other guys tried everything under the sun. My mistake was uninstalling Bufferzone with a third party uninstaller. Solution was to reinstall Bufferzone, and use its own installer to remove it. If you did this, my apologies. If you didn't, then after selecting uninstall, a window pops up: [URL=http://m1.freeshare.us/view/?171fs181521.jpg][img:a8e099bd9f]http://m1.freeshare.us/171fs181521_th.jpg[/img:a8e099bd9f][/URL] Check the three boxes, away you go, and Bufferzone uninstalls cleanly. Couple of minor reg entries left which delete easily. The problem string is gone. Anyway, sorry if this doesn't help, but it worked for me. http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11235#11235 Tue Aug 28, 2007 8:51 am http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11235#11235 Here too! (XP Pro SP2) :) Mucho gracias, Tsuk! And thanks for your great software! However, the Start Menu still doesn't work. Not to worry too much. Seems I'm alone to have that problem. It's probably something ill in my machine. http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11229#11229 Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:43 am http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11229#11229 All is well here. XP Pro. :) http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11222#11222 Tue Aug 28, 2007 4:35 am http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11222#11222 same here xpsp2 http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11221#11221 Tue Aug 28, 2007 4:28 am http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11221#11221 Cant speak for the rest of the people in this topic, but for me, using .19, windows explorer opens right away again, hope it's fixed for everyone else too. :wink: http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11215#11215 Tue Aug 28, 2007 3:46 am http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11215#11215 I haven't read through this entire topic, but the Windows Explorer errors reported here may be caused by version 3.01.18, so give version 3.01.19 a try. http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11213#11213 Tue Aug 28, 2007 2:59 am http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11213#11213 Also, one of the changes (if im not mistaken) between 3.01 and 3.01.18 is that tzuk adding some new language strings to the program (i think) although i have to admit, i never saw anywhere, the ability to change Sandboxie to anything other than English, anyways though, maybe that is what is conflicting (somehow)? http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11210#11210 Tue Aug 28, 2007 2:29 am http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11210#11210 ]]>Quoting SnDPhoenix: ]]>Btw guys, dont forget, 3.01.18 isnt necessarily the stable version, 3.01 is still the newest stable version, so 3.01.18 can be thought of sorta as a beta i guess. ]]> Thanks for pointing that out. I have been downloading from the forum link, not the main download page which is, as you point out, still serving up v3.01. Unlike your experience on Vista, the explorer windows never opens on XP. After a couple of minutes, explorer just shuts down and disappears from task manager as well as from the main configuration window. I also notice a behavioral change (probably by design) with v3.01.18 on XP Pro SP2. When running multiple boxes, even if only on is active, the red dots stay on the tray icon no matter what box you select with the 'switch to' function. I think this may explain what Mitch alluded to earlier in this thread. http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11208#11208 Tue Aug 28, 2007 2:01 am http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11208#11208 [quote:e84d2d5bb4]So something changed between installer version v3.1.0.0 (3.01) and 3.01.18 which broke 'Run Sandboxed', 'Windows Explorer'.[/quote:e84d2d5bb4] Hmm, i get something very similar, for me, Run Sandboxed -> Windows Explorer, does work, [i:e84d2d5bb4]but[/i:e84d2d5bb4], it starts up soooo slow, it took about a minute and a half for explorer to finally open. So although i dont get the same problem, it seems that there is infact something that broke in 3.01.18, btw i assume you guys are still on xp, well i tried this on vista, so maybe thats the difference (which is maybe why i was able to get explorer to finally open sandboxed) Also though, i [i:e84d2d5bb4]am[/i:e84d2d5bb4] able to get the sandboxie start menu to open up fine. Btw guys, dont forget, 3.01.18 isnt necessarily the stable version, 3.01 is still the newest stable version, so 3.01.18 can be thought of sorta as a beta i guess. http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11206#11206 Tue Aug 28, 2007 1:59 am http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11206#11206 I think it's more than that. I found another bug in 3.01.18 that I'm gonna start a new thread. In FF when I download a file and choose to save it, the click the 'My Computer' button in the left sidebar, FF crashes. I changed back to 3.01 and it works fine. http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11205#11205 Tue Aug 28, 2007 12:50 am http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11205#11205 r0lZ, it was a great suggestion! I have all the 2.x series betas and a couple of the 3.x release versions. I installed v2.94.25, problem fixed. Upgraded to v3.00.17.0, problem fixed. Upgraded to v3.1.0.0 (release 3.01), problem fixed. Upgraded to 3.01.18 (latest), problem RETURNED. So something changed between installer version v3.1.0.0 (3.01) and 3.01.18 which broke 'Run Sandboxed', 'Windows Explorer'. Unfortunately, since 2.x Beta testing ended I have not kept all the 3.x releases, but this at least narrows the window. I don't think the old versions are available for download. http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11203#11203 Mon Aug 27, 2007 11:15 pm http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11203#11203 Well, I have re-installed v3.01.18, and explorer doesn't work again. So, it's really a bug in the latest betas. Is it possible to download the other beta versions somewhere? I would like to check which is the latest beta that worked fine... http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11199#11199 Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:57 pm http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11199#11199 ]]>Quoting dlguild: ]]>Yes it would be a nice feature. I assume you know already that you can automatically force a program into the sandbox, no matter how it is launched by putting the executable name into the sandbox configuration using the Sandboxie GUI? ]]>Yes, I use it already to launch Skype. But it is sometimes necessary to be able to launch the same program either snadboxed or not. Shortcuts are handy for that. ]]>Quoting dlguild: ]]>Also, you can set up a shortcut which you can place anywhere you like which is structured like this: "c:\program files\sandboxie\start.exe" "<path to executable>/<executable.exe>", which will auto start the program in the default box. Or this variant: "c:\program files\sandboxie\start.exe" box:/<sandbox name> "<path to executable>/<executable.exe>", which will start it in the desired sanbox automatically. Doesn't sound as easy as BZ, but you only have to set up the shortcuts the first time. :) ]]>It's exactly what I want to automate. Note that BZ creates a shortcut (with a .virtual extension) for all files that it keeps in its bufferzone (its name for its boxes.) Accessing the shortcut has exactly the same effect than accessing the normal file, except that the application that uses it runs in the bufferzone protected area. Furthermore, the icons of all virtual files and shortcuts have a red outline, and it is easy to know what you launch. The right-click menu of those shortcuts has also an option to move the file out of the box, thus replacing the shortcut by the regular file, unboxed. Handy. The BZ interface is really more sexy than SB's one, but the rest is not as good, and only one sandbox is currently available. [FIX] You wrote "box:/<sandbox name>". It's /box:<sandbox name> http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11198#11198 Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:49 pm http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11198#11198 Thats great - maybe the last fix by switching back to the old user profile. http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11197#11197 Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:45 pm http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11197#11197 OK. I might even write a script to do just that myself, and post it as a prototype. I have also several other ideas, such as a tool to add automatically shortcuts for programs that have been installed in a sandbox. Will come back later with those ideas. In the meantime, I have reinstalled v3.01, and... explorer works! I ran "Run Sandboxed>Any Program" and typed . (dot) and, surprise!, explorer was there, correctly sandboxed. Now, "Run Sandboxed>Windows Explorer" works also. However, the start menu still doesn't work. :( I will try v3.01.18 again, but tomorrow. It is late, here in Belgium... http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11196#11196 Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:37 pm http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11196#11196 ]]>Quoting r0lZ: ]]>BTW, I think an important thing that is missing in SB (but present in BZ) is a tool to create shortcuts to launch files sandboxed. The tool should live in the context menu of all files, and when activated, it should request the sandbox name (only if there are several sandboxes of course) and the location for the shortcut (by default in the regular start menu.) Then, the user will be able to launch any sandboxed programs from the windows start menu, without having to use those launchers, which are, IMO, the sharp edges of Sandboxie. That can already be done manually, but it's not handy. ]]> Yes it would be a nice feature. I assume you know already that you can automatically force a program into the sandbox, no matter how it is launched by putting the executable name into the sandbox configuration using the Sandboxie GUI? Also, you can set up a shortcut which you can place anywhere you like which is structured like this: "c:\program files\sandboxie\start.exe" "<path to executable>/<executable.exe>", which will auto start the program in the default box. Or this variant: "c:\program files\sandboxie\start.exe" box:/<sandbox name> "<path to executable>/<executable.exe>", which will start it in the desired sanbox automatically. Doesn't sound as easy as BZ, but you only have to set up the shortcuts the first time. :) http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11195#11195 Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:28 pm http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11195#11195 Hey, you might have something there - think it through and put it in Feature Request - Sandboxie is the best program that I have ever had on this comp - It's now in a stage where it is trying to fit in with all of the misfit programs of the world. Sandboxie in its' pure form is bug/error free with windows in it's pure form. All of this is from the rest of them. http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11194#11194 Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:22 pm http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11194#11194 ]]>Quoting MitchE323: ]]>Ok while we are waiting - humor me, switch back and forth from Classic StartMenu and XP startmenu - stop and restart explorer.exe with the task manager (you can stay online with that) - heck I'm even ready to TweakUi the icon cache - lol ]]>I didn't thought at that, but still no changes. :( I have already rebuilt the icon cache with Dial-A-Fix! ;) BTW, I think an important thing that is missing in SB (but present in BZ) is a tool to create shortcuts to launch files sandboxed. The tool should live in the context menu of all files, and when activated, it should request the sandbox name (only if there are several sandboxes of course) and the location for the shortcut (by default in the regular start menu.) Then, the user will be able to launch any sandboxed programs from the windows start menu, without having to use those launchers, which are, IMO, the sharp edges of Sandboxie. That can already be done manually, but it's not handy. @dlguild: thanks for having tried! http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11193#11193 Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:19 pm http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11193#11193 Ok, It seems we have an extremely similair problem that will end up with very differant solutions. Thanx for trying http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11192#11192 Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:16 pm http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11192#11192 Well, not good news. Mitch, it doesn't matter how you terminate explorer.exe via task manager or Sandboxie control. The result is the same. I uninstalled VM Ware, no luck. I also disabled 'Data Execution Prevention', again no luck. Finally, I ran a debug trace. The only odd line I got was: watchdog!WdUpdateRecoveryState: Recovery enabled. The rest of the trace was normal. I googled variants of the trace line but got no results, so I don't know what it means. It does, however, look like something is trying to look after my system maybe? Anyway, I've got a new system coming in next week, so I'll probably wait to see if the problem reoccurs after I set it up. I'm out of ideas. Like r0lZ says, it's not serious enough to warrant drastic measures at this point. If anyone can think of something short of a reformat I will be glad to try it out. http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11191#11191 Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:04 pm http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11191#11191 Ok while we are waiting - humor me, switch back and forth from Classic StartMenu and XP startmenu - stop and restart explorer.exe with the task manager (you can stay online with that) - heck I'm even ready to TweakUi the icon cache - lol http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11190#11190 Mon Aug 27, 2007 9:57 pm http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11190#11190 No problem! I don't want to reformat my disc only for such a little problem. And I stay tuned right here. http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11189#11189 Mon Aug 27, 2007 9:50 pm http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11189#11189 Wait a bit on the format and give DL time to get back - he didnt install BZ, maybe we'll get lucky http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11188#11188 Mon Aug 27, 2007 9:43 pm http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11188#11188 Mitch, I understand your point of view, but unfortunately, in my case, it's not the same thing. I can't start explorer, nor the start menu (except the desktop part of the menu) from the default box with the default configuration. I'm sure the config and the installation are clean. There is obviously something else in the system that SB doesn't like. It's probably a little SB bug that happens only in some precise circumstances. I don't think the explorer problem comes from the old BZ installation, but I suspect BZ to be responsible of the start menu problem, as this problem has appeared only after having tried BZ. I had also some other problems with BZ, including a problem with a service that took ages to start. Maybe, for that reason, BZ has not been correctly uninstalled. Anyway, I can't do much more. The next step is to reformat the hard disc and reinstall everything, but I really don't want to do that now, especially to install a tool supposed to avoid having to do that! http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11187#11187 Mon Aug 27, 2007 9:24 pm http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11187#11187 ]]>Quoting wraithdu: ]]>Sounds like you've checked all the usual places, but to be sure - 1. Are there any BZ services running? ]]>No. BZ has only(!) 3 services, and all of them have been correctly un-installed. ]]>Quoting wraithdu: ]]>2. Under Device Manager, click View -> Show Hidden Devices. See if BZ maybe installed a driver here and didn't remove it. ]]>There are lots of non-plug&play drivers that I don't know, but none of them are related to BZ, as far as I know. ]]>Quoting wraithdu: ]]>3. Download Autoruns by Sysinternals and check the full scan to see if anything might be left over from BZ. ]]>I haven't tried that yet, but I have verified the startup programs with Spybot, and only the normal programs I use and know are started automatically. ]]>Quoting wraithdu: ]]>4. Try a registry cleaner? CCleaner is free and safe to use. ]]>I've already cleaned my registry 2 times (with Registry Mechanic and Registry Booster.) ]]>Quoting wraithdu: ]]>You already tried Dial-A-Fix, I'm assuming you let the whole thing run except for deleting temp files, etc (clearly unrelated stuff)? ]]>Yes, and I have even run some of its tools. I don't want to run the last tool however, as it replaces my SP2 exes with files from the old XP install disc, and I know that it's very dangerous! ]]>Quoting wraithdu: ]]>Since that didn't work, I'm not sure what else to suggest to repair your registry. ]]>Thanks anyway! http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11186#11186 Mon Aug 27, 2007 9:15 pm http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11186#11186 It doesn't quite confirm it, I have been testing differant ini setups just randomly and I can create many differant errors between the three areas - sometimes two work other times a differant two work. too many variables. And when I come back to my real ini setup - sometimes they are ok and sometimes not. When they are not ok, I check that my check mark is on DefaultBox, I stop explorer.exe with the task manager and restart it ....... and everything is good. mitch http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11185#11185 Mon Aug 27, 2007 9:09 pm http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11185#11185 ]]>Quoting dlguild: ]]>I've read this thread twice, still not sure which of the 2 problems you are working on. ]]>Both! ]]>Quoting dlguild: ]]>I can confirm that my XP Pro SP2 system will NOT allow you to run explorer.exe via Tray Icon -> Run Sandboxed -> Windows Explorer. Neither will it run using the command line - "c:\program files\sandboxie\start.exe" c:\windows\explorer.exe In both cases, explorer.exe starts up, no window appears, & if you wait long enough, just shuts down. In my case it also leaves behind the registry hive in the sandbox, which Sandboxie cannot delete. This behavior occurs even with all other security software shut down (and I don't have much other stuff anymore). I think this must be a bug which has appeared sometime over the last couple of releases. ]]>This is very similar to my explorer problem. However, I was able to run explorer sandboxed from a new Windows user account. Obviously, the explorer problem is related to some setups, probably in the windows registry, and not to the executables themselves. ]]>Quoting dlguild: ]]>I have no problems however with Run Sandboxed -> From Start Menu. All the correct choices appear for me. ]]>That confirm that the two problems are not related. Thanks. http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11184#11184 Mon Aug 27, 2007 8:54 pm http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11184#11184 Ok - Run Sandboxed -> Windows Explorer-Works good here Run command - works good here Run Sandboxed -> From Start Menu - works good here Did you stop and restart explorer.exe with the task manager? http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11183#11183 Mon Aug 27, 2007 8:28 pm http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11183#11183 Hi Mitch! In my case, I checked to see that explorer.exe was executing in DefaultBox. I even removed my custom .ini and replaced it with the standard one (single box). No joy. Bear in mind that I am referring to Run Sandboxed -> Windows Explorer. Contents of Sandbox -> Explore Contents works fine. I just did a complete Sandboxie uninstall, registry clean & reinstall (all new default box) & still have the problem. Tried disabling 'Data Execution Prevention' as well. Rebooted every step of the way. I don't think BZ has anything to do with it as I have never installed it. The only thing that I have installed since Sandboxie came out of Beta at 3.0 is VMWare Player. I'm going to try to uninstall that next to see if there is a conflict there (I doubt it as I wasn't running the player during the tests, but it does run some background tasks all the time). @Wraithdu - Thanks for the tip on Dial-A-Fix! While it did not solve my current Sandboxie problem, it fixed a different problem I was having on another system. Neat little program. Much appreciated! http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11182#11182 Mon Aug 27, 2007 7:45 pm http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11182#11182 [quote:a02ccc966e]Neither will it run using the command line - "c:\program files\sandboxie\start.exe" c:\windows\explorer.exe [/quote:a02ccc966e] My theory is that when you ran this command - the check mark pointed to a box whose settings prevented it from running. Regardless of whether or not you were using that box at that time. If that helps http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11181#11181 Mon Aug 27, 2007 7:28 pm http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11181#11181 Dlguild, Wraithdu - this at least for me was traced back to the windows shell - for both problems. I have had both problems or semi and now I have no problems - everything here works good. So it's not a bug in Sandboxie. This will trace to all of the multiple boxes we have all been creating. That "Switch To Sandbox" on the Taskbar right click setting has become meaningless for me. I mean you cant switch sandboxes with it right? That check mark, if in the wrong place effects both problems. And I dont know what it does on a reinstall. But roiz copied his old ini into his new installation and so the "default" was whatever box he was in last - I guess - Or where ever that Check mark just happened to be. (and I dont know how strict the setting was in that last box) My last box was the Pokerstars box which I had so nothing else could even run (the strict setting) And when I updated, "the default" took that setting - So my windows shell couldnt run. You wouldnt notice this though as the shell will only flush it's cache with closing explorer.exe from the task manager and then restarting explorer.exe from the task manager. It wont flush on a restart, like clearing old icons in the bar. So I guess you could all do that. mitch http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11180#11180 Mon Aug 27, 2007 6:48 pm http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11180#11180 Sounds like you've checked all the usual places, but to be sure - 1. Are there any BZ services running? 2. Under Device Manager, click View -> Show Hidden Devices. See if BZ maybe installed a driver here and didn't remove it. 3. Download Autoruns by Sysinternals and check the full scan to see if anything might be left over from BZ. 4. Try a registry cleaner? CCleaner is free and safe to use. You already tried Dial-A-Fix, I'm assuming you let the whole thing run except for deleting temp files, etc (clearly unrelated stuff)? Since that didn't work, I'm not sure what else to suggest to repair your registry. http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11179#11179 Mon Aug 27, 2007 6:47 pm http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11179#11179 I've read this thread twice, still not sure which of the 2 problems you are working on. I can confirm that my XP Pro SP2 system will NOT allow you to run explorer.exe via Tray Icon -> Run Sandboxed -> Windows Explorer. Neither will it run using the command line - "c:\program files\sandboxie\start.exe" c:\windows\explorer.exe In both cases, explorer.exe starts up, no window appears, & if you wait long enough, just shuts down. In my case it also leaves behind the registry hive in the sandbox, which Sandboxie cannot delete. This behavior occurs even with all other security software shut down (and I don't have much other stuff anymore). I think this must be a bug which has appeared sometime over the last couple of releases. I have no problems however with Run Sandboxed -> From Start Menu. All the correct choices appear for me. http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11177#11177 Mon Aug 27, 2007 6:33 pm http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11177#11177 I have already tried that, and also to create a new box just to run the explorer, but that doesn't work. I guess the problem is caused by something changed in my system that is not compatible with Sandboxie. And I think it's something left by BufferZone. The problem is that I don't know what it is, and I can't get support from the BZ support or community! :( (BTW, it's another good reason to switch to Sandboxie, despite the problem I have. This forum is very useful and active. Thanks to the whole community!) http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11176#11176 Mon Aug 27, 2007 6:23 pm http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11176#11176 Ok good luck - one other alternative is to switch back your sandboxie.ini that you saved from before - reload configuration. Since you had multiple boxes before, you will have multiple boxes listed in that taskbar menu. Put the check mark in each box one by one and try your startmenu with each. http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11175#11175 Mon Aug 27, 2007 6:05 pm http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11175#11175 I will also verify if I find suspect Sandboxie registry keys before re-installing it, but I doubt that can fix the problem, as I have never installed Sandboxie while it was running. Also, I have already verified the registry, and seems it doesn't use it directly (except for its installer and the regular Windows stuff for the service.) I suppose that everything is stored in its INI file. Anyway, thanks for your time! http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11174#11174 Mon Aug 27, 2007 5:55 pm http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11174#11174 Ok, this is what I had done and maybe for you also. In your first post your mentioned that you like several boxes and the control It had given you over each box. I have the same type thing - four boxes total. I downloaded the last update but I was busy in another box so I couldnt install the update right away. So when I was done with everything I closed that application (pokerstars) and installed the update. when you came on and stated your problem I checked my Startmenu and I got a sandboxie error (my first ever error) My check mark had been in the pokerstars box when I installed the update and stayed there even though I was no longer using that box. That box was secured to pokerstars to the exclusion of others - which also by badluck included the windows shell Somewhere in your process from your previous install b4 bufferzone - the sandboxie registry has your shell in a differant box. I think - All you can do at this point is uninstall sandboxie and reinstall it with only the default box - nothing from your ini of the past (firefox is ok) mitch http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11173#11173 Mon Aug 27, 2007 5:44 pm http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11173#11173 Still doesn't work. http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11172#11172 Mon Aug 27, 2007 5:42 pm http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11172#11172 open your startmenu http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11171#11171 Mon Aug 27, 2007 5:41 pm http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11171#11171 OK. I'm here, under sandboxed IE. http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11170#11170 Mon Aug 27, 2007 5:39 pm http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11170#11170 you gotta get active with the box - I need you as IE http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11168#11168 Mon Aug 27, 2007 5:37 pm http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11168#11168 OK, I'm back under an un-sandboxed Firefox :). Sandboxie Control is closed. http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11167#11167 Mon Aug 27, 2007 5:33 pm http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11167#11167 go off line and close everything but no need to shutdown computer - reload configuration and then come back here (although I use Firefox) you firefox guys just cant let an opportunity pass can ya - lol http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11166#11166 Mon Aug 27, 2007 5:32 pm http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11166#11166 ]]>Quoting MitchE323: ]]>lets get you sandboxed first gotta put a browser in there ]]>OK, I'm now browsing this forum under a sandboxed iexplore. http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11165#11165 Mon Aug 27, 2007 5:30 pm http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11165#11165 ]]>Quoting MitchE323: ]]>no browser? which do you like - please say IE ]]>OK, I've added iexplore.exe (although I use Firefox) in the forced programs. [code:1:081d8f2b04] ForceProcess=iexplore.exe [/code:1:081d8f2b04] http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11164#11164 Mon Aug 27, 2007 5:28 pm http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11164#11164 lets get you sandboxed first gotta put a browser in there http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11163#11163 Mon Aug 27, 2007 5:26 pm http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11163#11163 Could you explain what you did to simulate the problem? Maybe I will understand what's wrong here... http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11162#11162 Mon Aug 27, 2007 5:24 pm http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11162#11162 no browser? which do you like - please say IE http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11161#11161 Mon Aug 27, 2007 5:22 pm http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11161#11161 [code:1:1403daeae6] # Sandboxie Configuration File # Automatically generated whenever the configuration changes. # Set ConfigLevel to 99 to prevent the overwriting of this file. [GlobalSettings] ConfigLevel=1 BoxRootFolder=%APPDATA% ForceDisableSeconds=10 FileTrace=. PipeTrace=. KeyTrace=. IpcTrace=. GuiTrace=. [DefaultBox] Enabled=yes CopyLimitKb=32768 OpenFilePath=msimn.exe,%AppData%\Identities OpenFilePath=msimn.exe,%Local AppData%\Identities OpenFilePath=msimn.exe,%AppData%\Microsoft\Address Book OpenFilePath=msimn.exe,*.eml OpenFilePath=outlook.exe,%AppData%\Microsoft\Outlook OpenFilePath=outlook.exe,%Local AppData%\Microsoft\Outlook OpenFilePath=outlook.exe,*.eml OpenKeyPath=msimn.exe,HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Identities OpenKeyPath=msimn.exe,HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Outlook Express OpenKeyPath=msimn.exe,HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Account Manager OpenKeyPath=msimn.exe,HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Outlook Express OpenKeyPath=msimn.exe,HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Outlook Express OpenKeyPath=outlook.exe,HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office OpenKeyPath=outlook.exe,HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Windows Messaging Subsystem\Profiles\Outlook LingerProcess=acrord32.exe LingerProcess=jusched.exe LingerProcess=syncor.exe RecoverFolder=%Favorites% RecoverFolder=%Personal% RecoverFolder=%Desktop% BlockDrivers=y BlockFakeInput=y BlockWinHooks=y BoxNameTitle=n [/code:1:1403daeae6] http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11160#11160 Mon Aug 27, 2007 5:21 pm http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11160#11160 ok paste the ini http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11159#11159 Mon Aug 27, 2007 5:20 pm http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11159#11159 Which checkmark? Switch to Sandbox > DefaultBox is already checked. http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11158#11158 Mon Aug 27, 2007 5:17 pm http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11158#11158 now check that check mark and if still no good copy and paste your ini here http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11157#11157 Mon Aug 27, 2007 5:16 pm http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11157#11157 OK, done. I've forced SB to recreate its default INI file, and it is now running with an empty DefaultBox. But the start menu still doesn't work. http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11156#11156 Mon Aug 27, 2007 5:00 pm http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11156#11156 yes just copy your existing ini to the desktop and load sandboxie with just one box http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11155#11155 Mon Aug 27, 2007 4:58 pm http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11155#11155 I've copied back the my multiple-boxes INI file in the WINDOWS directory, but I can easily revert to the default configuration. http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11154#11154 Mon Aug 27, 2007 4:49 pm http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11154#11154 On your new setup -you just got the one box so far? Or you made your multiples already? http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11153#11153 Mon Aug 27, 2007 4:47 pm http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11153#11153 That's right. And it's OK. Now, what should I do? http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11152#11152 Mon Aug 27, 2007 4:45 pm http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11152#11152 right click taskbar icon - go to switch to sandbox - there should be a check mark next to default box I've got multiple boxes and if I move that check mark I get errors in my start-menu too http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11151#11151 Mon Aug 27, 2007 4:43 pm http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11151#11151 Still no luck. Dial-A-Fix doesn't help neither. ]]>Quoting MitchE323: ]]>... it's whether or not that check mark is right - get back to me as I've picked up on something while toying with this but I need your results to confirm. ]]>What exactly should I have tested? Running the start menu under the Default Box (and the default configuration) doesn't help. And I have double-checked the checkmark. ;) http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11146#11146 Mon Aug 27, 2007 3:51 pm http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11146#11146 Ok, I have been able to replicate real close to your problem and it's not whether or not youre in the default box, it's whether or not that check mark is right - get back to me as I've picked up on something while toying with this but I need your results to confirm. I've got the same setup xp-sp2 so you might just be good with this. mitch http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11142#11142 Mon Aug 27, 2007 3:39 pm http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11142#11142 I am running XP SP2, and I hate skins and useless addons, so my system is pretty pure, although, with the time, I have installed a lot of things. The only thing that could possibly cause problems is a dual-desktop manager that I wrote myself, but I have tried SB on a system with only my AVG antivirus program running at startup, and still no luck. Since I have uninstalled and re-installed Sandboxie several time to try to guess what's happening, I have of course tried it with the default configuration, and in the DefaultBox. Yes, my start menu can be opened successfully without problem. Thanks for the Dial-A-Fix suggestion. I'll try it asap. http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11130#11130 Mon Aug 27, 2007 1:46 pm http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11130#11130 If you think this might be an issue with some default windows compenent, like shell DLL registrations, you should try Dial-A-Fix. It's basically a collection of *fixes* that return a lot of things to windows defaults, like lots of component registrations. It's pretty self-explanatory. I've used it several times, and it's never done any harm. I totally forgot about this thing, and it's probably worth a shot in your case. http://wiki.djlizard.net/Dial-a-fix http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11127#11127 Mon Aug 27, 2007 11:53 am http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11127#11127 Whats your Os? Is your real startmenu displaying correctly? Any windows shell replacements or themers, windowblinds, anything like that? For when you get back on, I was able to semi-reproduce, but I am on xp and I dont know what you are on - anyway since you say you have experianced multiple boxes, right click on sandboxie icon in the taskbar, go to "switch to sandbox" make sure the default sandbox is checked - then try startmenu mitch http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11126#11126 Mon Aug 27, 2007 11:34 am http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11126#11126 Interesting to note: I have created a new Windows user account, and started Sandboxie from that account. The Start Menu problem persists, but I can launch the explorer. I'm now even more confused, as I thought those problems were related. http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11124#11124 Mon Aug 27, 2007 11:16 am http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11124#11124 No, nothing special, except the standard reboot. But I usually log on with administrative privileges anyway. As far as I can judge, all BufferZone services are correctly uninstalled. I have even deleted manually all registry keys related to BufferZone and still present after the uninstall process. However, BufferZone left some keys in the registry that I can't delete. They are all under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\BufferZone\virtual\ , and their values are empty, and apparently harmless. I doubt they can interfere with Sandboxie. I have again uninstalled Sandboxie, then restored my system to the oldest system restore point available, and reinstalled Sandboxie. Still no luck, and the alien reg keys are still there. (Unfortunately, System Restore doesn't have a restore point created before the installation of BufferZone any more.) The problem with Run Sandboxed > From Start Menu is not very important and I can live with it, but the fact that I can't run the explorer under SB indicates probably that there is a serious problem. Note that starting explorer.exe or any folder name gives the same result. Explorer runs without any window, and then closes itself after, say, 30 seconds. I don't remember if I ran a sandboxed explorer the first time, but the start menu worked fine. http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11120#11120 Mon Aug 27, 2007 9:16 am http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11120#11120 [quote:0afbed167e]and I like especially the ability to have several boxes with different contents and setups[/quote:0afbed167e]youre gunna learn to luv it - lol So it was good before the (cough) Bufferzone try and then this? On the Bufferzone install, anything like administrator rights or profiles that they needed that you forgot to change back? http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11119#11119 Mon Aug 27, 2007 8:54 am http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11119#11119 No luck. Still the same problem. And I have also another big problem. I can't run Window Explorer under SB. The explorer.exe process appears in the control panel, but the window is never opened. Anyone? http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11093#11093 Mon Aug 27, 2007 12:20 am http://www.sandboxie.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11093#11093 After having tested BufferZone and Sandboxie, I have decided to keep Sandboxie. :) It is wonderful and highly configurable, and I like especially the ability to have several boxes with different contents and setups. During my first tests, I've noticed how Run Sandboxed > From Start Menu works, and its GUI. After, I have uninstalled Sandboxie to try BufferZone. Now, BufferZone is definitely in the trashcan, and I have re-installed Sandboxie. However, I have a little problem. Run Sandboxed > From Start Menu shows only the Desktop sub-menu, and the (Cancel) option. The start menu is not there any more! Why? Any idea? Sorry for such a noob question, but I don't know Sandboxie well yet. EDIT: I've just noticed the announcement for v3.01.18, but I am currently running v3.01. I will try the new version immediately...